Presenters: Queensland Supreme Court has ruled that the COVID-19 vaccine mandates for emergency services were unlawful. Here to explain is today medical expert Dr Nick Coatsworth. Doc, good morning to you. This is pretty extraordinary, isn't it? Can you walk us through the ruling?
Public Health Officer, Nick Coatsworth (2024): It is extraordinary, Carl. Before I do that, I can't do this segment without acknowledging my own role in the system that promoted vaccine mandates.
Coatsworth (2020), previously: There will be a strong public view that those who choose not to get vaccinated need to there needs to be some sort of incentive stick perhaps through the current programs including No Jab No Pay to make that happen
Coatsworth (2022): I think it's a general principle, we could all agree that mandates have a time-limited role in a pandemic. The dispute and the question will be how long should that time be and what is a reasonable level of community vaccination to achieve before we abandon mandates. My view, not quite at the moment. I agree entirely that they're time-limited.
Presenter: You rightly point out, Nick, that you're a government official promoting vaccines during the pandemic. You're a big boy. You can defend yourself. Did you get it wrong?
Coatsworth (2024): Well I think certainly we didn't get it wrong promoting the vaccines Carl but the mandates yes I think we did get that wrong and I think you can say hindsight is 20-20 but Carl hindsight gives us foresight and if we have another pandemic we should think long and hard whether mandates for vaccines are justified.
Why will they have to “think long and hard” next time if they admit getting it wrong last time? The simple answer is that these authoritarians are not working on the principle of what is right or wrong; they work on the principle of what they can get away with. If they think their psyops and propaganda and fear campaign are successful again next time, they will go ahead and bring in mandates. After all, as with everything these people do, they require a compliant population in order to maintain their positions.
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